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Post by AkinaSS on Feb 11, 2004 23:19:11 GMT -5
I'm starting to think the conditions to acquire this medal might be badly translated. I just got this medal for my 2nd character and it took me about 8-9 attempts. 4 of which my ally was not denied toll once (i.e. repelled all invasion attempts) but i didn't get the medal regardless of who reached castle 1st. I finally got the medal when my ally DID NOT PAY TOLL ONCE (i.e. successfully invaded all enemy territory that he landed on).
I'm pretty sure of this but it doesn't hurt if somebody else could try it out.
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Post by ShadeParadox on Feb 12, 2004 9:25:01 GMT -5
Ya, I've failed to get this metal twice so far, second time my ally didn't seem to be denied a toll.
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Post by ExMortis on Feb 15, 2004 19:09:49 GMT -5
Another party has emailed me with some research results, apparently the goal of this medal is for your ally to not pay toll once. So there ya go.
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Post by BlueTorch on Feb 15, 2004 20:06:29 GMT -5
As a side note, that means you should likely choose Zagol as your ally, since he's a powerful invader. Cards like shocks and blasts, silence, etc. will seemingly make this medal easier to achieve. I kidn of independantly figured this out after some repeated misses attemping this medal the past few days ^^; Nice to see the community come together and figure this out though
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Post by Lord Blade on Feb 17, 2004 6:09:12 GMT -5
Hey all. When I got the medal, I know that my ally had to pay tolls a couple of times. Though I don't believe he actually LOST any lands. I know that I didn't take any tolls myself (I used a deck with no creatures).
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Post by OldTin on Feb 19, 2004 1:29:43 GMT -5
So the summary is : - a)play in Malthessburg map. b)can play in a 2 on 1 game. c)ur ally shouldnt pay any toll to ur opponent. is that right??? So, v can have any territory or not since the requirement is not 'only our ally can collect toll' N, if v r using a deck without creatures, can v earn the Star of the Ascetics together while v r trying to obtain this medal???
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Post by AkinaSS on Feb 19, 2004 18:02:38 GMT -5
That is correct. The Ally must not pay toll condition is the result that those of us here who tested on the conditions of obtaining this medal got.
Unfortunately i also satisfied the condition of not owning any land and therefore not taking any toll, and also my ally not denied any toll when i got the medal, so i can't really tell you whether those conditions needs to be satisfied too. Maybe the others have the answer or better yet test it yourself and tell us the result. I don't know how Lord Blade got his, i certainly didn't get the medal with just my ally not denied toll. I also tried his theory on Wings of Swiftness in a 3 vs 1 battle but never got the medal. Unless he has a different version, i don't see how its possible different ppl will get different results since its the same game.
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Post by AkinaSS on Feb 19, 2004 18:07:02 GMT -5
Oops i forgot, you can't get the Star of Ascetics this way. Although i have yet to obtain this medal too, i think you must do it alone and not in an alliance cause i didn't get that medal either when i got PoF with a creatureless deck.
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Post by OldTin on Feb 22, 2004 5:59:14 GMT -5
Thanks a lot... I'll go try it out and post my result here later to proof all the research posted here...
Thanks AkinaSS... Thanks for ur info on Star of Ascetics...
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Post by Targetboy on Mar 26, 2004 22:25:42 GMT -5
Well, I just tried two different ways to get the Medal of Friendship and only one worked (but I wasn't a very good scientist, I changed more than one variable between attempts, grrrr.)
First attempt: (no medal was awarded on this attempt) Zagol and I against Mullyn. Mullyn paid the toll every time she landed on one of Zagol Lands. I only had spells in my deck so owned no land. I don't remember Zagol ever paying a toll to Mullyn, but he did lose a dragonfly when Mullyn moved a neighboring Lilith over onto it (she used territory ability from a fort).
Second attempt: (Medal was awarded on this attempt) This time is was Ryvern and me against Mullyn. I upped the magic power limit to 11,000. Again, I had only spells and no territory. Mullyn successfully invaded once (it was my fault, I used Holy Word One on her to get her to land on a leveled up properity. She had only defensive creatures in her hand before her turn, then drew an Undine and successfully defeated Ryvern's Will of the Wisp (thereby not paying his toll for that square). Also, I landed on one of her squares and had to pay a toll myself to her. Ryvern never landed on her properties at all and was the first one to the castle when the required amount of magical power was reached.
So, here's a winning formula (not necessarily the only one, but this way worked 5 minutes ago): Ryvern and You allied against Mullyn played at Malthessburg with the magic power limit set to 11,000. Ryvern must never pay a toll to Mullyn. You can pay a toll and she can successfully invade but your ally must never pay a toll.
My recommendations (for what they're worth): Lots of damaging spells to wipe out her creatures so Ryvern can't land on them, lots of Holy Word #'s to get him past her creatures, I kept some level reducing spells to make her creatures more easily defeated (but again, Ryvern never landed on her creatures anway). Also, I snuck in some land altering spells so that if Mullyn only had one creature in a blue square, I could alter it, thereby not letter her play tougher creatures that require having someone on the board on a blue square already.
Hope this helps!
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s6
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i know what i like
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Post by s6 on Jun 7, 2004 15:17:05 GMT -5
Read the advice on this board last night. Thanks to all! With Leo, just beat Mullyn w/in 7 minutes and won the Proof of Friendship medal, using mainly nasty spell cards (Shatter, Drain Magic, Bind, Anti-Element, Plague, Magic Bolt, Evil Blast, Telekinesis, Find, etc.) plus the Heart Fibula x2, Counter Amulet x1, Lunatic Hare, Decoy, and the Bookworm at Mathelessbury to 9000 No Limits. That was just too EZ! Still laughing bc Mullyn (btw, it's a "he") only got to place 3 creatures (Wall of Ice, Drool, Sea Bonze) the entire time which were each promptly removed from the board. He was too poor to use any of his spell cards. It appears that as long your ally does not have to pay a toll, the medal is yours no matter which ally crosses the castle finish line first (Leo actually won the match). Check it out. Off to the next medal...this site is cool - thanks again! ;D EDIT: I only owned one water territory with a Bookworm installed, leveled to 864. I first won that land with the Lunatic Hare who deftly melted Mullyn's Wall of Ice using the Heart Fibula, which added +20MHP. I tried to get this medal last night, but was unsuccessful. I played an allied versus match, with Leo on my team against Zagol and Goligan in the Malthessbury map. I also set the goal to 10,000G. My deck is composed of only magic cards to support Leo. When we (I) won, i did not get the medal. Can someone point out what i did wrong. Thanks.
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Post by utawoutau on Jun 10, 2004 0:14:51 GMT -5
Just in case anyone is still confused, let me repeat, in order to win the Friendship medal:
/me You must play an alliance match on the Malthessburg map. (This can include a two on one match) /me Your ally must Never pay a toll.
Things that do not effect whether or not you win the medal: /me The tolls that you collect /me The tolls that you pay /me Whether or not an enemy invades and takes over your land or your ally's land.
I tried to get this medal a couple of times before I actually won it as well. The first time I played I never collected a toll (I let my partner collect them), but that definitely does not work!
So basically, whoever did the translation for the in-game description of how the medal is won (i.e. "your ally is never denied a toll") simply mistranslated the text. It should instead say "Your ally never pays a toll".
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Post by MmmLilith on Jun 26, 2004 23:30:22 GMT -5
Let me make this medal SUPER easy for you. Set your goal to 5000 magic on the Malthessburg map. Play a 2 on 1 battle where you and Zeneth tag-team poor old spell-less Zagol.
The goal here is to let Zeneth do most of the land ownership here. You throw out a few bait creatures that let Zagol feel like he isn't simply on a carousel ride. You cards in your deck are aimed to simply support your partner, Zeneth.
You should equip the following: 1 Brass Idol 2 Tyrannosaurus 1 Anubias (or whatever here) 1 Kelpie 3 Wall of Ice
3 Gaseous Form 1 Nuclear Fusion 2 Prismatic Wands 1 The Hand 1 Water Amulet
1 Banishing Ray 2 Black Out 1 Camouflage 2 Changeling 1 Despair 2 Disease 1 Evil Blast 1 Holy Word 0 1 Holy Word 10 1 Influence 1 Insect Swarm 4 Magic Bolt 3 Manna 3 Peace 1 Quintessence 3 Rust 1 Senility 2 Shatter 1 Shrink 1 Silence (or more, I only have 1 here) 1 Sink
Continue to whipe out Zagol's defensive items. You don't want Zeneth landing on a creature of Zagol's that can be equipped with armor. Also, add adverse spells to any creatures that you can't destroy immediately. Be careful in your use of the brass idol. You can rust out Zagol's items, but the brass idol can restock him super fast.
This turned out to be a very simple medal to obtain.
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Post by WhoseYerLilith on Jun 27, 2004 7:51:39 GMT -5
This isn't one of the more difficult medals, Zeneth/Leo/Zagol all make good allies for their aggressive tendencies and I definitely think Mullyn is a much easier opponent to play against then Zagol simply because she (she- despite the gender neutral introduction) only uses water creatures, half of them that have a land requirement and she's very choosy about where to place them. Zagol tends to take every available land and plays with red, yellow and neutral- which makes it a lot more likely that your ally will have to pay a toll along the way.
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Post by FukmepoleK on Jun 28, 2004 18:38:31 GMT -5
This game would be great fun if I had 4 of each card...........
damn it. I hate hodgepodging together a deck with mismached luck and happenstance.
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