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Post by Odradek on Oct 23, 2004 20:44:32 GMT -5
These two are great support creatures. Bloody Pudding's abiltiy appears to be like any other support creature, but watch your Max HP after battle. It should remain the same as what it was in battle. Essentially the card gets stronger and stronger as you fight and survive. Support it once with a Colossus and you have a 100 HP card. Add land effects and you potentially have 150 HP's.
Son Ascetic's ability to use the support card's ability makes it a jack of all trades. Take for example Wall of Ice's special ability: HP + 30 in battle. If Son Ascetic uses this card for support that would be 100 HP's in battle, with 150 potentially from land effects. I'm not going to give all my combinations (more on that later), but there are possiblities for many kinds of opponents..
Two of the most underrated cards in the game in my opinion.
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Post by WhoseYerLilith on Oct 23, 2004 21:30:11 GMT -5
I thought Bloody Pudding's MHP ceases at 80?
Son Ascetic is great- it's been covered numerous times before from Centaur to Migoal to Undine and Lilith.
From people on the board to people who play in real life, I've never met anyone whom considers either of these an underrated support card.
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Post by Odradek on Oct 23, 2004 22:55:49 GMT -5
I thought Bloody Pudding's MHP ceases at 80? Son Ascetic is great- it's been covered numerous times before from Centaur to Migoal to Undine and Lilith. From people on the board to people who play in real life, I've never met anyone whom considers either of these an underrated support card. I guess it is 80 max HP. I just started using Bloody pudding in my deck, as for not quite remembering the text on the card. Still some good defense potential. Slap a regeneration on it for better results. The reason I say underrated is there is hardly ever any mention of either of these cards on this forum. I've read about the Son Ascetic + Centaur thing, but that is nothing compared to the defense potential that Wall of Ice gives. Also for fun try using Son Ascetic with support from Bloody Pudding for an increase in Max HP. |
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Post by WhoseYerLilith on Oct 24, 2004 8:29:45 GMT -5
Yeah Regeneration would make this beastie even tougher, though I stopped playing with those a long time ago due to other cepters interference and that Bloody Pudding rarely ever needed it.
I don't understand how you can say the support from a Centaur is "nothing" compared to the Wall of Ice support- it's entirely situational and neither is "better" than the other. If my opponent challenged me with a Gladiator and a Storm Causer you bet your ass I'll choose the centaur for the ST bonus and the first strike ability-then the added bonus of having the centaur recylced to my hand. If it's a Storm Giant, I'd probably go with the Wall of Ice.
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Post by AceLeader on Oct 24, 2004 19:35:06 GMT -5
I think support creatures in general aren't super good. Most of them are very weak to begin with, the best one being able to be blown away by an Evil Blast. They do give you a larger amount of cards to use during battle, but thats what items are for anyway. I'd much rather use a Counter Amulet then support with a 30/50 creature or something. Support isn't BAD, but I'd rather run a Pyro Drake over Son Ascedic in most situations.
An added note for Bloody Pudding: I haven't actually tested this, but I've heard somewhere (probably on this forum) that because of his effect of 80MHP, you can't increase his HP above 80 in battle. Ex., your Bloody Pudding is a 20/80, and you use a Wall of Ice for support. I believe his life will not increase any. This is just what I heard, I've never actually tested it.
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Post by WhoseYerLilith on Oct 24, 2004 20:09:34 GMT -5
Support Creatures, like every other card in the game, have their uses and their drawbacks. Though the general stats are pretty low, several of them incorporate natural abilities to more than compensate the disability like the auto-land protection. More to your point, even if you look at all computer enemy cepters, many do not play with Evil Blast and only one of the top of my head plays with 4 and he's optional- human opponents are another story, but I've seen some really well built Support Decks take out even the most challenging cepter with some good strategies, and there are numerous times where they are able to hold my lands, over and over again, when I have no items and the opponent is overloaded with them. The Sage is one of my personal favorites- one he's out he almost never dies.
Counter Amulets are great, but there are many creatures who can't use them and they're also a little on the expensive side. I prefer using defense items in battle because I like saving my creatures to actually hold land or to take land, but you've really got to be able to see all sides.
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