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Revival
Jan 20, 2004 22:43:02 GMT -5
Post by armadi on Jan 20, 2004 22:43:02 GMT -5
I don't think this card is game-breaking in power, but I enjoy the extra strategy this card adds to the game.
Revival cost: G:70 + Discard a card Return the target Cepter's book to the way it was at the start of Round 1. (basically, reshuffle your deck)
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Revival
Jan 20, 2004 22:46:37 GMT -5
Post by TheTampaCepter on Jan 20, 2004 22:46:37 GMT -5
Yes that is a nice card
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Revival
Jan 26, 2004 8:37:20 GMT -5
Post by Ryououki on Jan 26, 2004 8:37:20 GMT -5
Does it actually reshuffle the deck? I was under the impression that it simply restarts the deck in the same original order.
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Revival
Jan 26, 2004 22:29:48 GMT -5
Post by armadi on Jan 26, 2004 22:29:48 GMT -5
I am almost positive it doesn't reset it to the original order b/c I have casted it early on in order to get my copy of Soltis shuffled back in (which was in my first 5 cards) and I'm pretty sure I didn't see it for about 20 cards. But I wasn't testing or anything (wasn't paying attention).
Next time someone plays a deck with revival- remember the first card drawn and see if it is also the first after revival. Of course, I believe the starting hand is already sorted into creatures, spells, etc so this may not be so easy to test.
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Revival
Jan 27, 2004 0:09:49 GMT -5
Post by Ben-Ra on Jan 27, 2004 0:09:49 GMT -5
I'm also fairly certain that Revival shuffles the deck, but I haven't run a "hard test." It wouldn't be that difficult. Even if it separates the spells, items, etc. in the first hand, just note the cards you draw for turns 1-5. then note the 1st-5th cards drawn following Revival. if they're the same, it doesn't shuffle. If they're different, it does. Also, make sure opponents haven't used Death Gaze, Changeling, Suppression, etc. on you. You can also note the opponent's draws for double accuracy.
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Revival
Jan 27, 2004 10:17:01 GMT -5
Post by OWell on Jan 27, 2004 10:17:01 GMT -5
That is, Revival shuffles the Book. Compares, and the man can recover the Book by Revival, even if it loses cards in Changeling and Death Gaze. Furthermore, Revival cannot be buried by Changeling. In addition, the card lost in "Bell of Chaos", "Mind Seeker", and "Mesmerize" and "Supression" etc. is like discard or a used card. That is, it be initialized if a card is only exhausted.
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Revival
Jan 27, 2004 10:36:03 GMT -5
Post by Moptop on Jan 27, 2004 10:36:03 GMT -5
Ahh, I understand now. When Revival declares that it returns a deck to the state it was in "at the start of Round 1," it is referring to the cards that were featured in the deck at the time, but not their order. So cards that have since been removed, through Death Gaze or otherwise, will return to the deck when Revival reshuffles it. Nice!
I now have more respect for this card.
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Revival
Feb 23, 2004 1:26:26 GMT -5
Post by Scamp on Feb 23, 2004 1:26:26 GMT -5
I must assume it's possible to then deplete your opponent's deck completely.
If this happens, then, what happens? Anyone got the time to test this out?
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Revival
Feb 23, 2004 2:25:50 GMT -5
Post by ExMortis on Feb 23, 2004 2:25:50 GMT -5
Depleting a book would theoretically be possible if it consisted of 50 creatures, since the only thing that removes cards from the game is Death Gaze.
I guess it's worth testing, but I assume a player with no cards would simply not draw.
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